SIR GEORGE MONCK OF ALBEMARLE

Some very strange reactions indeed. Is this not a discussion site? Do we disqualify opinions because they are totally new to us? Why not just give arguments to counter my claims?
The name ‘The Black Boy’ was given with pride because Charles most closely resembled the little Black Page, the symbol which stood for Bleu Blood and nobility. There is no need to manufacture any proof as the proof is just everywhere.
Still I belief some people, who don’t log in, are pleased with this new insight. Down with ignorance! Please look for black images of Sir Monck of Albemarle, a supporter of the Black Boy.
My research explains why we have racism today. Racism was a functional ideology to counter the claims of ‘black superiority’ of this despotic black elite. Do we still have any civilized need for racism? I would rely on education and democratic principles to prevent any minority from seizing total power.

Egmond Codfried

As Dr. Techie noted, most of what you have written is OFF TOPIC for an etymology discussion group.  You’ve made your point about Charles II and it has been accepted by some and argued against by others.  That’s as good as it gets in this group.

HISTORICAL LESSONS

“Wordorigins.org is devoted to the origins of words and phrases, or as a linguist would put it, to etymology. Etymology is the study of word origins. (It is not the study of insects; that is entomology.) Where words come from is a fascinating subject, full of folklore and historical lessons. Often, popular tales of a word’s origin arise. Sometimes these are true; more often they are not. While it can be disappointing when a neat little tale turns out to be untrue, almost invariably the true origin is just as interesting.”

I disagree with you that my information is Off Topic. This site mentions ‘Historical lessons’ to explain the origins and use of a word. I also like to make clear, the great significance of this name and how the word The Black Boy lost it’s meaning today. No one has yet challenged my opinion, although I perceive some ignorant remarks as warning people away from a discussion with me.

Egmond Codfried

Mr Codfried, your assertions about “Bleu Blood” and the alleged non-white ethnicity of a number of historical personages is indeed wholly off-topic for this board.

The only thing in your posts that is relevant to this board is your contention that the “Black Boy” pub name is a reference to Charles II. You have not, however, offered any evidence to support this.

Firstly, who says it was Charles II’s nickname? References, please?

Secondly, even if it was his mother’s name for him, what evidence can you adduce that this name had any currency in England in general, as opposed to his family circle?

Thirdly, have you any evidence that any (never mind all) of the pubs called the Black Boy were named after Charles II rather than black servants or local notables called Mr Blackboy?

Unless you can substantiate your assertion there is no reason for anybody to take the trouble to “challenge” it. I could just as easily assert that “Black Boy” pubs are named after General Robert Craufurd (1764 - 1812) on the grounds that his nickname was “Black Bob”, and demand that you disprove it.