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Expressions from card games
Posted: 24 November 2008 02:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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That’s fascinating… but then why isn’t the final -s voiced?

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Posted: 26 November 2008 04:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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I will use the <a> device from now on - I didn’t know how to use it and couldn’t find instructions. Thanks, LH.

I have to say I’d feel a bit self-conscious and affected saying “die” for dice even though I know it is prescriptively correct. “See here, croupier, pass the die why don’t you.” I’ll wager most would avoid die, though there again I can’t think of any games involving one die. Cockney rhyming slang has “rats and mice” for dice, die or dice I can’t say - it was probably from street gambling.

I have remembered I used to think “the die is cast” was from gaming and then decided it was from metal molds which made more sense because it was irrevocable unlike throwing a die - all of this without bothering to research it. Now, after googling, it turns out my shaveling instinct about die was right - Caesar crossing the Rubicon.

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Posted: 06 February 2009 09:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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There are several expressions used in the poker game ‘Hold em’ that I’ve always wondered where they originated:

The Hole Cards - The two cards dealt face down to each player at the start of the hand. 

The Flop - This is probably obvious because it occurs after the deal and three common cards are dealt facedown to the middle and turned over in unison.

The Turn - This is the fourth common card dealt face up to the middle after the Flop and a round of betting.

The River Card - The final common card dealt face up to the middle after the Turn card.  Some refer to this as the Fifth Street card.

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Posted: 09 February 2009 02:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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We need Victoria Coren, star poker player and also presenter of the BBC’s TV series on etymology, Balderdash and Piffle. I’ve left a message on her blog ... let’s see if she replies ...

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Posted: 09 February 2009 02:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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One of the first Spamusements I ever did…

http://spamusement.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=113094#113094

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Posted: 09 February 2009 06:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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JimWWhite - 06 February 2009 09:57 AM

There are several expressions used in the poker game ‘Hold em’ that I’ve always wondered where they originated:

The Hole Cards - The two cards dealt face down to each player at the start of the hand.

A “hole card” is one dealt face down, and it almost certainly originated in the US in the 1800’s.  While Jon Lighter of the famous HDAS could only find it from 1926, and the OED from 1904, using Newspaperarchive I can date it to 1887.  So, it goes back pretty far, and always about poker.
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Posted: 09 February 2009 07:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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samclem - 09 February 2009 06:56 PM

JimWWhite - 06 February 2009 09:57 AM
There are several expressions used in the poker game ‘Hold em’ that I’ve always wondered where they originated:

The Hole Cards - The two cards dealt face down to each player at the start of the hand.

A “hole card” is one dealt face down, and it almost certainly originated in the US in the 1800’s.  While Jon Lighter of the famous HDAS could only find it from 1926, and the OED from 1904, using Newspaperarchive I can date it to 1887.  So, it goes back pretty far, and always about poker.
To be fair, the HDAS was only quoting the slang use of “hole card,” in 1926, not the poker term.
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