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Posted: 04 March 2009 03:04 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Frederick George Abberline was the Inspector in charge of the Whitechapel murders in the 1880s it’s always struck me as a very unusual surname. Googling reveals one other man with Abberline as his surname (died in 1944 in Lancashire) and there’s no entry for it in my local phone book. Can the name really be that rare? (both men were married). Is there an area where the name is more common or is it a variant spelling/pronunciation of another name.

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Posted: 04 March 2009 05:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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The usual spelling is Aberline, and one gets far more hits googling that, including many modern Aberlines. As for the origin, you have me there.

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Posted: 04 March 2009 05:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Just possibly a Celtic place name? “Aber” is Welsh/Brythonic for “river mouth” and it is the first element of shedloads of British placenames. There’s an “Aberlyn” in Fife, and an “Aberlleinau” in Carmarthenshire.

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Posted: 04 March 2009 07:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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FWIW, someone posted this on a website in answer to a similar question

“ ‘Aber’ ultimately derives through Celtic languages all the way back to Sanskrit Ab, as in Punjab (Five Rivers). It’s one of our oldest easily recognisable shared words. (Aberavon is actually river twice, as Avon is also a variation).”

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Posted: 05 March 2009 05:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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The Yournotme (sic) website, which is, I believe, plugged into the UK voters’ lists, says there are eight people in the UK with the surname Abberline, which suggests very recent origin, presumably, indeed, as a variant of Aberline,

“Aber”, incidentally, in British place names, doesn’t mean “river” but “confluence” or “river mouth”, so that, for example, Abergavenny is named for where the Gefenni joins the Usk (now there is an old and widespread word for “water"), although “aber” does most likely come from a putative British word *abona, meaning “river”; and Aberavon is a bit of a false friend, since the Welsh name of the river on which the town in West Glamorgan sits is Afan, “probably derived from a personal name” (Field, Place Names of Great Britain and Ireland), and the English version of the town name was altered by folk etymology from Aberafan to Aberavon.

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Posted: 05 March 2009 05:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Yournotme has no one at all spelled Aberline in the UK (I have found a couple by googling and there seems to be a clutch of them in Australia). It does seem to be a vanishingly rare name in either variant.

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Posted: 05 March 2009 02:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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"The Yournotme (sic) “

Oh dear.

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Posted: 05 March 2009 03:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I entered “eliza” and “dii” into the search fields, and yournotme told me (quote) You don’t exist. Go and look in the mirror. If you see something then we’re wrong else you’re some kind of magic pixie, elf, carrot or vampire. Sorry.
Sic indeed.  (But I’m still worried.  Mainly because people eat carrots.)

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Posted: 05 March 2009 10:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Yes, it’s rather worrying. I’ve discovered that several people I thought I knew well do not in fact exist. This will be alarming news to their families, although perhaps the blow will be softened a little by the fact that they don’t exist either.

Either that or the site is pants.

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Posted: 06 March 2009 12:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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There are 184 of me - ha ha!

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Posted: 06 March 2009 01:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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OP Tipping - quote:

“The Yournotme (sic) “

Oh dear.

I do not understand the statement quoted above.

what does it mean?

(should I have some more vodka and then take another look?)

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Posted: 06 March 2009 03:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Here you go, Lionello.

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