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Posted: 27 April 2011 06:53 AM   [ Ignore ]
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How do you, yes YOU personally, pronounce this?

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Posted: 27 April 2011 07:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Viz, to rhyme with “fizz”. Yes, I know the Z is just a device to denote its being a truncated form of videlicet, but I simply can’t imagine reading viz. and pronouncing it videlicet.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 07:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Good for you, SL.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 07:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Same as SL.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 08:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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"Viz.” is pronounced to rhyme with “fizz” for me, also.  Though if I am reading aloud I often say instead, “See:” with definite indication that the colon exists and is intended.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 09:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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"See:” would be more appropriate as a rendition of vide.
Viz. (videlicet) is not imperative and is more accurately interpreted as “namely”, “that is”, “to wit”, or something along those lines.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 10:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Namely for me, although I do pronounce as written when vid. is used, as it often is in older texts. I think it’s habit; I was influenced when young by Fowler, who deprecated the viz pronunciation in MEU. I know he’s considered passé now but old habits die hard.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 11:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Dr. Techie - 27 April 2011 09:42 AM

“See:" would be more appropriate as a rendition of vide.
Viz. (videlicet) is not imperative and is more accurately interpreted as “namely”, “that is”, “to wit”, or something along those lines.

I actually knew this but the knowledge was somewhere other than easily available when reading aloud.  I do often find myself reading “Viz.” aloud as “see:"--but thinking more, it depends a lot on the material.  Just an observation of an unfortunate habit.  I may have been caught up by mis-applying the “to see” or the “to wit” aspect: 

viz.
1540, abbreviation of videlicet “that is to say, to wit, namely"(1464), from L. videlicet, contraction of videre licet “it is permissible to see,” from videre “to see” (see vision) + licet “it is allowed,” third person singular present indicative of licere “be allowed.” The -z- is not a letter, but originally a twirl, representing the usual M.L. shorthand symbol for the ending -et. “In reading aloud usually rendered by ‘namely.’ “ [OED]

I internalized a huge amount of language-related information early on--obviously much of it incorrect.  I have taken some small comfort from the adage: “It’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks.” That I know the more correct rendering allows me to gracefully recover while reading, if I find myself boxed in by habit and context, though this is at the expense of some economy of words.  If in quote, rather than reading for meaning aloud to others, I will invariably pronounce Viz. as in “fizz.”

This is an illustration of the utility I have found in the forum.  I had not thought much about “Viz.” for a long while.  I don’t know when I might have thought about it again but for this thread.  I look forward to my next “live” encounter with the term.  I think my reading will be the better for this encounter.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 01:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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"Namely”.  “Viz” is the name of a rebellious comic in the UK.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 01:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I’m not sure I ever say it out loud, but I think I’d go with “Namely.”

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Posted: 27 April 2011 04:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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I would say “viz” because the first time I’d heard it said out loud was on Monty Python, and that’s how they pronounced it.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 06:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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As spoken by Superintendent Harry “Snapper” Organs?

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Posted: 27 April 2011 06:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Well, the old helmet & boots were a bit of a giveaway.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 08:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Someone had to go there. Well said Doc. I say Vizz (rhymes with Fizz) solely because I have heard it pronounced only once, and by the aforementioned Supt. Organs.

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Posted: 27 April 2011 11:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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So no one is plumping for “we day lick it”

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Posted: 28 April 2011 12:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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OP Tipping - 27 April 2011 11:20 PM

So no one is plumping for “we day lick it”

Personally I go for rhyming with fizz, but if pressed to expand it would be “vy-de-ly-chit”.

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