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Posted: 26 January 2013 02:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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And if you shoot the gun out of their hands they become disarmed gunmen.

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Posted: 27 January 2013 07:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Being all the while totally disarming.

On retrospect, I agree - that wasn’t worth it really.

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Posted: 27 January 2013 09:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Oh, it was a perfectly ‘armless little joke, Eliza.

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Posted: 27 January 2013 01:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Would he be a one-armed bandit?

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Posted: 29 January 2013 01:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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You hit the jackpot with that one, Dave.

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Posted: 29 January 2013 04:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Monty Python’s Black Knight became a disarmed swordsman.

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Posted: 29 January 2013 10:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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"Free gift” and “book in advance” are sometimes quoted as redundancies in language stuff.

You can always say PI number and narrow your eyes like a hard-boiled dick.

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Posted: 29 January 2013 10:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Advertising is an excellent place to find useful redundancies like “free gift.”

Ads are focus-tested to death. You can be sure that any word or phrase that habitually appears in advertising is there for a reason. “Free gift” gets a higher response rate than simply “gift.”

Ads, like newspaper headlines, are their own special genre of writing. Ordinary rules do not apply.

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Posted: 29 January 2013 11:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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I don’t know about ‘redundancy’; my father always used to warn his children that a ‘free gift’ is the kind you pay for.

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Posted: 30 January 2013 10:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Pursuant to what Dave said, I get more internet savvy as the years go by and have been reading about SEO. It’s old advertising techniques adapted to the web and search engines to attract hits. wordorigins.org is an org, a labour of love rather than a commercial site, but clearly the more informed posters there are here the better. SEO isn’t cynical or manipulative - everyone wants their online endeavours to be popular and/or successful including blogs and .orgs and .nets.
What “luck” have people here had, if applicable? You have to get key words into your (let’s face it, Google) search description and optimize how high it appears in searches, etc., all well known. People pay experts to do this. Dave, did you bother with any of this stuff when you set up this site a fair time ago? Everything’s changed. I thought Twitter sounded pathetic initially but now it’s a major source of breaking news especially from hard-pressed people in countries with lousy governments and so on.

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Posted: 30 January 2013 05:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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The only bow to SEO that I made was establishing a list of keywords when the site was first established, but as Google and search engines no longer use lists of keywords I haven’t bothered to keep the list current for years. The keywords are probably still there buried in the HTML code somewhere, vestiges of a bygone era.

Many of the so-called SEO experts are just shams. Google is constantly revising it’s algorithms, and most honest SEO advisors will tell you that the best way to improve your search ranking is to write clear, compelling prose, that if you contort your writing to meet some algorithm’s requirements you will only succeed in lowering your ranking as your site becomes unintelligible. Although they do run statistics on what words you should use. I remember one example from my days in Silicon Valley was that we were advised to use both “laptop” and “notebook” when writing about our products for that kind of PC.

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Posted: 31 January 2013 03:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Amazon Kindle offers publishers the choice of about six search words for each Kindle book on, say, Africa, etymology or whatever the publisher thinks will drive people to buy a particular book.

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Posted: 31 January 2013 04:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Yes, but the question is, to what degree does the algorithm in Amazon’s search engine rely on those author-supplied keywords compared to other factors? My guess would be the keywords have a marginal influence on ranking. If Amazon uses Google for its searches, the influence would be all but nonexistent.

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Posted: 31 January 2013 10:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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I agree with that.  I don’t think it makes a blind bit of difference.

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Posted: 31 January 2013 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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In my part of the world there are many millions of armed gunmen. “We” can tell “ours” from “theirs” because “they” have a rallying cry: “Arms for the Love of Allah”
“Our” rallying cry, on the other hand, is “I Arm that I Arm”
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