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Posted: 03 January 2014 06:55 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Posted: 03 January 2014 07:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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The key to understanding the modern shift in meaning of sophisticated is the sense of altered from a natural state.

Yes, that’s clear enough, but how do you get from “philosopher who takes money for classes” to “mixed with a foreign substance, adulterated or altered from a natural state”?  That’s what I was hoping you were going to explain; it certainly isn’t self-evident.

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Posted: 03 January 2014 08:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Good point. I’ve added a bit, from fallacy and false reasoning to deception and adulteration of products.

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Posted: 03 January 2014 09:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Dave Wilton - 03 January 2014 06:55 AM

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Sophomore also seems to be another variant form of sophism.

sophomore (n.)
1680s, “student in the second year of university study,” literally “arguer,” altered from sophumer (1650s, from sophume, archaic variant form of sophism), probably by influence of folk etymology derivation from Greek sophos “wise” + moros “foolish, dull.” The original reference might be to the dialectic exercises that formed a large part of education in the middle years. At Oxford and Cambridge, a sophister (from sophist with spurious -er as in philosopher) was a second- or third-year student (what Americans would call a “junior” might be a senior sophister).

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Posted: 03 January 2014 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Sofisticato in modern Italian can mean ‘sophisticated’ but also still means ‘adulterated’, and I believe this is at least as common a sense if not more so.

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Posted: 03 January 2014 02:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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The term “sophisticated” appears a number of times in the Aubrey/Maturin novels of Patrick O’Brian, set in the period 1800-1820. It is sometimes used by Dr. Maturin—invariably in the sense of “adulterated” --- with reference to wine, or lemon juice.

(edited to improve sentence structure

[ Edited: 04 January 2014 04:10 AM by lionello ]
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