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Posted: 10 May 2014 11:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Dr. Techie - 10 May 2014 09:30 AM

Yes, I was the one who named the Conspiracy to Attribute Nautical Origins to Everything.  I can’t, of course, prove that nobody invented it before me, but it seems improbable.

I thought that was the case, it has your touch about it. I do have a memory of you coming up with it but didn’t want to rely on that until you’d confirmed it. I wish I could remember the thread. I’d search on the old board but dollars to donuts Yuku hasn’t fixed Search yet. BTW I hadn’t realized just how widespread it is over the language blogverse now. Very good to see.

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Posted: 10 May 2014 01:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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I had bookmarked the thread, and even though the bookmark broke when yuku took over the archive, it provided enough information for Google to find it:

http://wordoriginsorg.yuku.com/topic/2273/Tow-the-line-or-toe-the-line#.U26TMoXFSpR

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Posted: 10 May 2014 02:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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OP Tipping - 08 May 2014 03:53 PM

I don’t quite get the park ranger reference.

Our park rangers are known to commit the same etymological errors as Aldi’s naval gazers at HMS Victory in Portsmouth. We’ve mentioned them here or there on this board.

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Posted: 10 May 2014 02:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Dr. Techie - 10 May 2014 09:30 AM

Yes, I was the one who named the Conspiracy to Attribute Nautical Origins to Everything.  I can’t, of course, prove that nobody invented it before me, but it seems improbable.

And that, of course, is what forced the good Dr. to remove his cloak of invisibility in the introduction to Dave’s book. Dave felt that he couldn’t use that acronym without giving credit where credit was due.

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Posted: 10 May 2014 04:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Dr. Techie - 10 May 2014 01:01 PM

I had bookmarked the thread, and even though the bookmark broke when yuku took over the archive, it provided enough information for Google to find it:

http://wordoriginsorg.yuku.com/topic/2273/Tow-the-line-or-toe-the-line#.U26TMoXFSpR

And there it is at birth! My goodness, 12 years ago. Fugit inreparabile tempus indeed.

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Posted: 10 May 2014 04:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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aldiboronti - 10 May 2014 04:27 PM

Dr. Techie - 10 May 2014 01:01 PM
I had bookmarked the thread, and even though the bookmark broke when yuku took over the archive, it provided enough information for Google to find it:

http://wordoriginsorg.yuku.com/topic/2273/Tow-the-line-or-toe-the-line#.U26TMoXFSpR

And there it is at birth! My goodness, 12 years ago. Fugit inreparabile tempus indeed.

O wait! So the actual acronym is the creation of David McAdams? Or, as I suspect, did Dr. T have that in mind when he wrote, “Consipiracy to Attribute Nautical Origins to Everything.”

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Posted: 10 May 2014 06:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Oecolampadius - 10 May 2014 04:44 PM

aldiboronti - 10 May 2014 04:27 PM
Dr. Techie - 10 May 2014 01:01 PM
I had bookmarked the thread, and even though the bookmark broke when yuku took over the archive, it provided enough information for Google to find it:

http://wordoriginsorg.yuku.com/topic/2273/Tow-the-line-or-toe-the-line#.U26TMoXFSpR

And there it is at birth! My goodness, 12 years ago. Fugit inreparabile tempus indeed.

O wait! So the actual acronym is the creation of David McAdams? Or, as I suspect, did Dr. T have that in mind when he wrote, “Consipiracy to Attribute Nautical Origins to Everything.”

No, all the Doc’s work. DM was just appreciatively underlining the acronym.

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Posted: 10 May 2014 07:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Yes, I had previously suggested the existence of such an entity, but the name didn’t form a meaningful acronym.  This time around I carefully chose a phrase that would yield an acronym with connections to travel by water (not that a canoe is really nautical, but you can’t have everything).

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Posted: 10 May 2014 09:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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not that a canoe is really nautical

I find it difficult to agree with this statement, which appears to me to imply that “ really nautical” and “salt water”, “open sea”, etc., must necessarily go together. Are the ships that ply the Great Lakes, the Amazon, the Danube, then, less “nautical” than those that brave the Altlantic rollers?  Or is a canoe perhaps disqualified from being “really nautical” because of its size (in which case, what dimension, or group of dimensions, would be involved in the qualifying test --- beam, length, displacement?)?

Dr. Techie!  Would you demote navigators such as Hiawatha, or the intrepid voyageurs of the North in an age long past, to the status of mere landsmen? Tut-tut! heaven forfend!

;-)

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Posted: 11 May 2014 12:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Sadly, my suggestion that wordgeek found People Uniformly Suggesting Sexual Etymology for Everything did not catch on in the same way.

I also can’t agree with Dr Techie that the canoe is not nautical. The far flung islands of the open Pacific from New Zealand to Hawaii to Easter Island, were colonised by people using nothing but canoes.

Thanks for the park ranger explanation, Oeco. I suppose even the wisest yogi might make a booboo.

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Posted: 11 May 2014 02:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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CANOE is the perfect term. It demotes the majesty of the great sailing vessel that is the suggested etymology and turns it into something you paddle around in.

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Posted: 11 May 2014 06:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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all we need is a picture of a canoe with a brass monkey and 9 yard-arms

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Posted: 11 May 2014 07:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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I withdraw the self-criticism, and apologize for any offense I might have caused myself.

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Posted: 11 May 2014 10:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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That’s better. I hope you are feeling contrite and vindicated. I call it vindicontrited.

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Posted: 12 May 2014 12:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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In the Library of Babel, one may look for many lifetimes for such a Vindication.

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