Have it in/out
Posted: 11 October 2017 01:46 PM   [ Ignore ]
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The following sentence from an article in The Hollywood Reporter gave me pause.

Critics have had it out for ABC’s latest Marvel series since they got their first glimpse at footage ........

As becomes abundantly clear from the rest of the passage the meaning is that the critics have had it in for the show from the start and dislike it. I’ve always understood have it out to mean to confront someone to thrash out some issue, as in I finally had it out with the guy and felt much better for it afterwards. I don’t recall seeing it used in the THR sense where I would have expected critics have had it in for, etc.

So what do we have here? Solecism? Americanism? Changing usage? Or just an outlier of no import whatsoever?

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Posted: 11 October 2017 02:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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An outlier, I hope.

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Posted: 11 October 2017 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I agree with cuchuflete. It must have been written by someone who doesn’t know better, or who became confused while writing their article.

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Posted: 12 October 2017 04:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Or it may be language change in the making.  Let’s keep a sharp lookout!

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Posted: 12 October 2017 05:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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A bit of careful Googling suggests that this form with this exact meaning is fairly common, and not very new.

Some early examples from the wild:

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1995-10-05/sports/9510050116_1_meeting-miami-football-players-rap-video
Sun-Sentinel
October 5, 1995|By RANDALL MELL Staff Writer
“There were certain players, like Deion Sanders, who we had it out for that night."Dawkins said. “We were going to shut their mouths. This thing they were doing was going to end.”

http://articles.latimes.com/1997/jul/05/local/me-9884
LA Times
July 05, 1997|ANDREW BLANKSTEIN and ANN W. O’NEILL | TIMES STAFF WRITER
*that the neighborhood tensions seemed to be racially motivated and stirred by a particular neighbor “who had it out for my client."*

It also appears that discussion of this phrase is also not new.

https://www.englishforums.com/English/HeHasItOutForYou/gncmp/post.htm
14th September 2008

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/have-it-out-for-someone.2190474/
Word Reference Forum thread from 7, Jul 3, 2011.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/363921/when-did-have-it-in-become-have-it-out
asked Dec 17 ‘16 at 3:59

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Posted: 12 October 2017 06:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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My Grammarly application didn’t think either was wrong. It didn’t question either “in” or “out”. So, me not liking it makes no difference.

It didn’t like “glimpse at footage” though. It changed it to “glimpse at the footage”.

[ Edited: 12 October 2017 09:49 AM by Eyehawk ]
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Posted: 12 October 2017 09:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Nicely researched, OP.

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Posted: 13 October 2017 03:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Well it would mess up some old jokes:
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Posted: 13 October 2017 10:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Haven’t had a chance to say this for a while: aldi! aldi! aldi!

http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/forums/viewthread/3811/

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Posted: 15 October 2017 10:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Darn it! That was a pretty good run though and at least it gave me a chance to enjoy zythophile’s joke again in the old thread.

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