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Posted: 07 January 2018 07:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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I’ve never heard “marmalade” used to describe cat color in the US, except that my wife and I bestowed the name Marmalade on an orange tom who visits us occasionally.  We have since learned that his nominal owners call him Pumpkin.

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Posted: 08 January 2018 09:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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I’ve seen ginger used as slang for a redhead for years now (I dunno, maybe ten?), and I’ve always assumed it originated with the Gilligan’s Island character. Is this incorrect?

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Posted: 08 January 2018 11:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Probably not correct, in that it would imply a separate origin for the same usage in the US and Britain (where the use of the noun ginger to mean a red-haired person is documented back to 1823,and for reddish-brown roosters to the 18th century).

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Posted: 09 January 2018 11:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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That’s good to know - thanks! Maybe it’s the other way around, and the character was named for her hair color.

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Posted: 10 January 2018 05:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Maybe worth pointing out ( to avoid international incidents) that in the UK, “ginger” is an informal or familiar term for a redheaded person.  Used in the wrong context, and it’s at least rude and maybe mildly insulting.

As a result of this thread, I now know that the ginger in “Ginger Rogers” was a nickname based on her real name “Virginia” and nothing to do with hair colour.  Another not too useful fact to file away and hope for a quiz question ;-)

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Posted: 10 January 2018 09:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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It’s definitely informal here in the US as well, but I don’t think it’s considered rude or insulting. Not being a redhead, though, I can’t really say for sure.

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Posted: 10 January 2018 11:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Oecolampadius - 05 January 2018 07:30 PM

I fell madly in love in high school years (15 to 17 years old) with a girl who had what was described then as having “auburn hair” which might have matched this description. Not exactly red but on my artist’s palette, a burnt sienna. I actually never talked to her. Ever!

But I never paint with burnt sienna without thinking of her. I actually don’t even remember her name. sigh!

I may have been married to her.  Fiery as a redhead, with a dark, dark heart.

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