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Posted: 10 February 2018 03:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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My favorite is when non-rhotic people stick an R after a vowel in their ‘phonetic’ spelling.

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Posted: 10 February 2018 07:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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"Pronounced SHAR-DAY”

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Posted: 11 February 2018 09:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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and ma-HOT-ma

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Posted: 12 February 2018 03:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Then there’s Sadio Mané, who plays for the Liverpool Football Club.  I can hear the non-rhotic R in some of the announcers’ pronunciation of his last name.

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Posted: 12 February 2018 06:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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and ma-HOT-ma

Then there’s Sadio Mané, who plays for the Liverpool Football Club.  I can hear the non-rhotic R in some of the announcers’ pronunciation of his last name.

Maybe I’m slow today, but I don’t understand what either of these comments has to do with the topic.

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Posted: 13 February 2018 02:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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languagehat - 12 February 2018 06:00 AM

and ma-HOT-ma

Then there’s Sadio Mané, who plays for the Liverpool Football Club.  I can hear the non-rhotic R in some of the announcers’ pronunciation of his last name.


Maybe I’m slow today, but I don’t understand what either of these comments has to do with the topic.

Topic drift had dragged the thread into the region of IPA and thence on to other attempts to represent pronunciation.

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Posted: 13 February 2018 07:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Right, but I guess I’m not clear on what is striking about “ma-HOT-ma” and why there’s a non-rhotic R (whatever that means) in Mané.

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Posted: 14 February 2018 03:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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languagehat - 13 February 2018 07:23 AM

Right, but I guess I’m not clear on what is striking about “ma-HOT-ma” and why there’s a non-rhotic R (whatever that means) in Mané.

I’m with you on the “ma-HOT-ma” issue but if you ever watch the footy, commonly on NBCSN you will hear some or the commentators saying the A in the name “Mané” with a certain, I dunno, tension that wouldn’t be present in a straight pronunciation of Mané’s name.  It’s as though it were spelled Marné.  Perhaps some of our Rightpondians know what I’m talking about and can explain it better than I can.

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Posted: 17 February 2018 06:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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I gave ma-HOT-ma as an example of the phenomenon that Dave mentioned:

Dave Wilton - 09 February 2018 05:57 AM

. Since you don’t know the author’s dialect, it’s impossible to understand how the author says you should pronounce the words.

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Posted: 18 February 2018 06:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Heh.  Since “ma-HOT-ma” works fine in my dialect, I didn’t even notice!

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