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Posted: 16 March 2018 02:37 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Why does good sometimes mean permanently?

“He worked security for so many rock concerts, he lost his hearing for good.”

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Posted: 16 March 2018 05:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Note that it is the phrase “for good” that means permanently, not just “good”.

Also, I don’t know where that phrase came from…

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Posted: 16 March 2018 05:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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never mind.......and OP beat me to it anyway. ;(

[ Edited: 16 March 2018 05:54 PM by Eyehawk ]
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Posted: 16 March 2018 06:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I’ll post anyway. I tried to get the italics to work, but no luck. I’ll use caps:

This from Etymology on Line: https://www.etymonline.com/word/good

Phrase FOR GOOD “finally, permanently” attested from 1711, a shortening of FOR GOOD AND ALL (16c.). Middle English had FOR GOOD NE YLLE (early 15c.) “for good nor ill,” thus “under any circumstance.”

One could easily see how a non-English speaking person could have a hard time understanding this usage.

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Posted: 17 March 2018 03:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Eyehawk - 16 March 2018 06:55 PM


One could easily see how a non-English speaking person could have a hard time understanding this usage.

I assume you mean those who are not native speakers, not those who don’t speak English. For members of the latter group everything is hard to understand.

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Posted: 17 March 2018 10:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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The OED antedates that:

1476 J. Paston in Paston Lett. & Papers (2004) I. 495 [They] offryd to afferme and advowe my tytell for goode.

It’s still probably a clipping of for good and all, although the full phrase isn’t attested to until later:

c1520 Parl. Byrdes (de Worde) sig. A.ii Than desyred they [sc. the birds] grete and small To mewe the hawke for good and all.
1576 L. Tomson tr. P. de la Place Treat. Excellencie of Christian Man sig. B.viv It must suffise vs for good and all, that his will was so.

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