Distinction by repetition
Posted: 06 May 2018 09:48 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Yes, it’s the worst thread header I’ve ever written. But how is it more elegantly termed?

Whoopi Goldberg was heavily criticised for claiming that Roman Polanski wasn’t guilty of ‘rape-rape’ when he drugged and had sex with a minor, presumably distinguishing this from greater violence. Yesterday I witnessed one woman ask another if she was drinking-drinking in a pub garden before going in to get the drinks, meaning drinking alcohol; I missed the answer, and never found out, because they decided to leave as the pub wasn’t doing food, and though there were crisps and nuts available, that obviously wouldn’t be eating-eating.

Also, how is it to be written? Hyphenation seems the most common way, as above, but in the case of the Goldberg quote at least, ‘rape rape’ is also found. If I’d been asked, I’d have gone for ’rape rape’, but I wasn’t.

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Posted: 07 May 2018 12:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Yeah, italicised followed by normal would be my preference.

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Posted: 07 May 2018 02:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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OP Tipping - 07 May 2018 12:27 AM

Yeah, italicised followed by normal would be my preference.

No can do on Twitter though.

‘Rape’ rape?

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Posted: 07 May 2018 03:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Can we a different example please. From an article about detention of young protestors: “We can still go to jail. Well, it’s not jail jail, it’s little people jail. “

BlackGrey, quote marks (’jail’ jail) make it sound like you mean so-called.

On Twitter, emphasis is often shown using paired asterisks or underscores. *jail* jail. _jail_ jail.

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Posted: 07 May 2018 07:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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The most common usage is probably ‘play-play’, meaning not for real.

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Posted: 07 May 2018 07:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Just another example: on an episode of Bob’s Burgers, the schoolkids in the oldest daughter’s class repeated used “like-like” to indicate romantic feelings for someone, as in , “[Girl] thinks she like-likes [Boy], but she doesn’t know if he like-likes her.”

One hears “love love” in such contexts as well.

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Posted: 07 May 2018 12:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Often used in disambiguation. Was it strange funny or funny funny?

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Posted: 07 May 2018 05:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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aldiboronti - 07 May 2018 12:13 PM

Was it strange funny or funny funny?

In AE, sometimes expressed as Funny peculiar or funny ha-ha?

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Posted: 08 May 2018 02:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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OP Tipping - 07 May 2018 03:34 AM

BlackGrey, quote marks (’jail’ jail) make it sound like you mean so-called.


Isn’t that exactly what its function is though?
OP Tipping - 07 May 2018 03:34 AM

On Twitter, emphasis is often shown using paired asterisks or underscores. *jail* jail. _jail_ jail.

I use asterisks for bold type in text emails but noted now for Twitter, thanks. The underscores look a bit bizarre and computerish but they do the job I guess.

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Posted: 08 May 2018 07:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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The linguistic term for the construction is “contrastive reduplication.” See http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/index.php?s=contrastive+reduplication

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Posted: 08 May 2018 09:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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The linguistic term for the construction is “contrastive reduplication.

Thank you for that information. I think perhaps there are a few linguistic terms that are used for that kind of construction in addition to contrastive-reduplicationEpizeuxis, is another term that might predate contrastive-reduplication.

epizeuxis, n.
Pronunciation:  /ɛpɪˈzjuːksɪs/
Frequency (in current use): 
Etymology: modern Latin, < Greek ἐπίζευξις a fastening upon, < ἐπιζευγνύναι, < ἐπί upon + ζευγνύναι to yoke.(Show Less)

A figure by which a word is repeated with vehemence or emphasis.
1589 G. Puttenham Arte Eng. Poesie iii. xix. 167 Ye have another sort of repetition, when..ye iterate one word without any intermission, as thus: It was Maryne, Maryne that wrought mine woe… The Greeks call him, Epizeuxis, the Latines Subiunctio.
1656 J. Smith Myst. Rhetorique Unvail’d 89 Epizeuxis..Adjunctio, a joining together of the same word or sound.
1678–1706 in E. Phillips New World of Words
1845 J. W. Gibbs Philol. Stud. (1857) 206. 

Below is another link describing contrastive-reduplication.

https://stancarey.wordpress.com/2012/08/07/contrastive-reduplication-a-thing-or-a-thing-thing/

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Posted: 08 May 2018 02:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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As I understand the word, epizeuxis is repetition for emphasis.  Contrastive reduplication is a different phenomenon.

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Posted: 09 May 2018 02:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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BlackGrey - 08 May 2018 02:51 AM

OP Tipping - 07 May 2018 03:34 AM
BlackGrey, quote marks (’jail’ jail) make it sound like you mean so-called.


Isn’t that exactly what its function is though?
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Quite the opposite. Jail jail means real jail.

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Posted: 10 May 2018 12:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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OP Tipping - 09 May 2018 02:38 PM

BlackGrey - 08 May 2018 02:51 AM
OP Tipping - 07 May 2018 03:34 AM
BlackGrey, quote marks (’jail’ jail) make it sound like you mean so-called.


Isn’t that exactly what its function is though?
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Quite the opposite. Jail jail means real jail.

Yup, I read it wrong, sorry.

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