BL: Run It Up the Flagpole
Posted: 03 June 2018 06:23 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Let’s run this one up the flagpole and see if the cat licks it up.

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Posted: 05 June 2018 12:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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It’s a memorable phrase and it certainly has the ring of Madison Avenue. Interesting sidelight on this page tracing the origin of Madison Avenue as a synonym for advertising.

According to Roland Marchand’s book, Advertising the American Dream, the phrase ‘Madison Avenue’ was first used to denote advertising around 1923, and by the late 1920s, it was both a prevalent and geographically accurate term. It is worth noting that the George Batten Company moved to 383 Madison Avenue at 46th Street in early 1923, long before the 1928 merger that formed BBDO, and the agency remained there until 1987.

I’d like to see a cite for that (OED’s earliest is 1944.)

12 Angry Men is an incredible film. The cast just knocks it out of the park, especially Fonda and Lee J. Cobb.

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Posted: 06 June 2018 08:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I think there’s an omitted word or two in the first sentence of the entry: “The phrase run it up the flagpole and [see?] if anyone salutes [it?] is credited to Madison Avenue admen of the 1950s.” The “it” seems optional to me but the “see” seems necessary.

It occurred to me that the “see” might be implicit, or that the construction might have been elliptical, with an intended meaning something like “and if anyone salutes… [we’ll know its a good idea].”

But both of those interpretations seemed a bit strained, and the quote from 12 Angry Men has the “see” in there (and an “it” at the end) so I’m back to thinking its just a mistake.

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Posted: 06 June 2018 09:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Missed that but you’re right, Dave’s inadvertently omitted the see in the initial sentence.

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Posted: 06 June 2018 04:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Yeah, I don’t think I’ve heard it with “it” after “salutes” but “see” definitely has to be there.

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Posted: 07 June 2018 04:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Corrected

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